Boxer briefs is a misnomer. They're just tighty-whities with a little extra leg, y'all, and they look just as icky.

On a side note, my friends and I got into a dicussion on men's underwear and I was told that all tighty-whities and boxer briefs end up skid-marked. Like it was just a fact of life. Like men can't help it. This repulsed me, and maybe that's why the thought of anything but boxers makes me gag.

Most of my friends wear boxers. There have been a few locker-room jokes about my loyalty to my tighty whities, but my buddies all know I do and wear whatever I like and I don't mind an occasional elbow in the ribs.

Tighty whities are just right for me, *BUT* my new girlfriend is giving me HELL over my good 'ol TWs. The first time she saw them, she burst out laughing. She said, "What are these??!!!" and snapped the waistband. "I'd think a guy like you wouldn't wanna be caught DEAD in these!!!" I don't live in a vacuum. I knew they weren't every woman's favorite, but this seemed really extreme.

We've been going out about three months now. We're very compatible in all ways--except for this one little point of contention, my skivvies. She refers to them as "your widdle diperz." She even said it over dinner at an expensive restaurant. At first I thought she secretly thought they were cute, and it didn't really bug me that she was giving me a hard time. I have a strong, stubborn personality, and I enjoy it when a beautiful, willful woman makes an attack on a stance I take, whether it's in politics, food, etc. The success rate of changing my opinions is very low.

I figured after a couple weeks she'd come to appreciate my choice of underwear as part of my personality--an extension of me. She'd understand that my briefs are an expression of who I am. I think of my tighty whities as practical, comfortable, masculine and somehow characteristic of a certain spartan value system I espouse. I don't like excess. I'm pretty well-built, and in my thinking, my underwear shows my body without screaming "I'm on display," the way certain other varieties of men's underwear do. I'd rather have the woman be the attention-getter--if that makes any sense. My tighty whities are good, basic, classic, clean.

But *NO!* She persists in bemoaning my poor widdle undies. A few weeks ago she gave me a present. The card said, "For the REAL MAN in you." I opened the present, and it was three pairs of boxers with silly patterns. It was sort of shitty of me, but I said, "Thanks, but no thanks." She burst into tears. What's the big deal one way or the other? Sure, we all have our likes and dislikes in the clothing of our significant others, but this seems like it's taking things way too far.

(To be continued.)

And for inquiring minds who might think I'm biased, I actually prefer briefs on guys. All that leg. Besides, I had a boyfriend who wore smiley faced boxers. One night he left a pair under my pillow before he left (we were not sleeping together). My mom came into my room after the cries of "Ew! OH MY GOD! That is so gross!!!" And being who she is, she started laughing hysterically.

I've been trying to make sense of all this. Other women have had no problem with my underwear--or if they have, they haven't said anything about it. I'm really crazy about this woman, despite her bizarre behavior. If it weren't causing me grief, I wouldn't have brought the whole thing up. I really don't want to lose her, but I hate the idea that I have to re-think my wardrobe to keep the relationship. I've been asking a lot of women their opinion about what kind of underwear they like to see on a man. Many have sort of evaded the question at first, saying "It's a matter of personal choice," or something like that, but when I've really persisted, they've overwhelmingly said they prefer boxers, or in some cases, boxer briefs (a smaller percentage, I think.) I finally found one very attractive young woman who said "Boxers--no way! Briefs are da bomb!" I felt really vindicated for a couple seconds, and then she added "but DEFINITELY not white." In women's undies I prefer black lace, but I just can't see getting that hung up on the exact color or style. To me it matters a lot more who's inside them. I might make a gentle suggestion about what turns me on, but to be upset about underwear to the extent that I'd throw a woman's underthings in the garbage--that's insane.

I'm sorry my communication has dragged on a bit, but I wanted to establish the context for my questions, which will follow. The idea of this forum is great, but despite the many opinions expressed, it seems to me that, with maybe a few exceptions, we're staying at a pretty superficial level. I'm an analytical sort of person, and I like to try to understand what's going on on a deeper level.

Because of my experience of the last months and weeks, I've done some searching around on the Internet for some answers to the question, "What kind of underwear do women prefer men to wear, and why. More speciically, why this intense negative reaction to white briefs.

I've looked at a few surveys of opinions on men's underwear. According to one survey--at WebUndies.com--the men who voted actually do prefer white cotton briefs--although quite a few men also voted for boxers. However, almost two thirds of the women voted in favor of boxers, with cotton patterned boxers being their top choice. Boxer briefs weren't included. Other surveys, including one by Argosy, have yielded fairly similar results--especially where the women are concerned.

When I used a search engine to look for the phrase "real men wear boxers," I got several hits, but "real men wear briefs" yielded none. I found a wealth of references by women to tighty whities/briefs with words like "gross," "trashy," "nasty," "babyish," "gag" and "ughh." I found a college newspaper article by a woman who wrote that "there's something about tighty whities that curdles the stomach." In another site, two young women list their recommendations for their future husbands. Out of twenty-two recommendations, eleven say "NO TIGHTY WHITIES!" or something very similar. And then there's the one about the game show "The Mating Game," where in one episode, a woman who was choosing from a bunch of men--50, I think--she was asked whether she wanted a "brief encounter" or a "boxer rebellion," and she said "Briefs make me gag," and all the men were asked to strip, and those who were wearing briefs were made to parade past her in their undesired skivvies as they were ushered of the stage.

In this forum there are a few proponents of briefs, including "tighty whities," most of these proponents male, but a much larger number of contributors are in favor of boxers or boxer briefs. Dulcinea, for instance, says "After 2nd grade, breifs [sic--no pun intended] shall be strictly prohibited. In one reference --a dictionary-type definition of "tighty whities," it was actually claimed that it's illegal by code such-and-such for any adult male to wear them.

As stated, I have no intention of switching to boxers, boxer briefs or anything else. But I wonder if some of you could explain why it is so many--especially women--seem to get so wildly upset about tighty whities. I understand the idea that they look childish to you--and, to paraphrase one contributor--may represent to you an inability on the wearer's part to emotionally commit himself fully to you. That makes sense enough on the surface of things, but what about jeans? Moms dress their little boys in jeans, but when a man dresses in jeans, it doesn't upset you at all. Why should it be any different with his underwear? Could it have anything to do with the fact that corprations can make so much more many if they get every man convinced that he's a geek or "widdle boy" if he buys seven-packs of Hanes on sale at six bucks each, instead o shelling out from twelve to forty (yes, I've seen forty for some stuff) for a pair of fancy pants? Or is it simply women's revenge on our getting away with paying the low price. Isn't there some sort of mythic story at work here--something about a rite of passage from boyhood into manhood involving a switch from tighty whities to boxers or other "less demure-looking" undergear, as one woman told me? Is it something about the Wild West? (As far as I can discern, in Europe, Australia and many other parts of the world outside of the U.S., this whole idea about the transition from one type to the other doesn't exist. Euro women seem to love those thongs. Ladies, if you feel like throwing up when you catch sight of a pair of tighty whities--have you always experienced this, or did it set in at a specific age? Are there strong negative associations with male relatives who wore them? Does it upset you if a man is a little more visible than he is when he wears boxers? I've sometimes encountered the idea that while men are turned on primarily by visual stimuli, women, more than men, respond to verbal stimuli--stories, fantasies. Obviously, there's no sharply-defined dichotomy. But could it be you like boxers because, since they leave more to your imaginations, you're constructing fantasy stories in your heads when you see boxers? What about the women who prefer to see a man in tighty whities? (Are there ANY out there?) What do you like about them? Can you suggest any reason you might regard them differently from the droves who favor boxers or boxer briefs?

By the way, concerning skid marks, good hygiene and bottle of bleach go a long way.

To anyone who didn't like my mention of squashing myself when wearing boxers, or to being sensitive--sorreee, I didn't mean to offend. But it seems kind of ridiculous to try to have a discussion of garments that cover, and in many cases support, the male anatomy, to pretend as though there weren't issues pertaining to that anatomy. I don't think there's anything prurient or gauche about mentioning it. What's more, I'm not the first person to name these body parts in this site. I thought this was the era of the "new male sexuality" in which, maybe due to a shift towards an at least somewhat less patriarchal society, or simply the advent of the Information Age, the taboo of mentioning male anatomy, especially it's vulnerability, at times, had been lifted. Why should the ideas of squashing or sensitivity be so loathsome? Whatever the case, I'll leave further mention of these phenomena to someone else. You have to admit that taking a strong position in favor of tighty whities was bound to meet with some negative reactions.

Clueless, why "Troll!"? Many of my best friends have worn silkies--although not with the Grinch--or was it Oscar the Grouch. That I consider them silly-looking shouldn't be an issue for you, as what you wear is your prerogative and has little or nothing to do with my attempt to understand my girlfriend's behavior. What I expressed was in explanation of my choice of underwear, not a recommendation to anyone else. There has been plenty of disdain for one kind of underwear or another expressed in this forum. Despite my desire to understand the negative reactions to tighty whities, if someone derides them, it doesn't cause me to lose my cool.

And on the subject of why women (for the most part) prefer that men wear underwear other than tighty-whiteys: frankly, to me, it does seem childish. If you have on a pair of white briefs, you might as well slap Superman all over the suckers and put on some footy pajamas, because only little boys wear them. I can understand a guy wearing them when he works out or plays sports, but honestly, they look funny. For the same reason Speedos look funny. Men just aren't supposed to wear panties.

Now, the boxer brief, which I am a huge fan of, is my idea of sexy, the number one reason being that they don't come stamped with your favorite superhero.

And taking your post at face value (which, in all honestly, is probably giving it more credit that it's due), if you like this girl, and she doesn't like your underwear, then you might want to try being flexible. If it came down to changing the type of panties I wear from cotton to silk, or losing my boyfriend, I'd be parading around in silk panties from here to eternity. Because it's just not that big of a deal. Sure, I may not be as comfortable, but my boyfriend thinks it's sexy, and I'm willing to give anything a shot for him. It's called compromise.

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Originally posted by leigha:
If it came down to changing the type of panties I wear from cotton to silk, or losing my boyfriend, I'd be parading around in silk panties from here to eternity. Because it's just not that big of a deal.

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My preference goes: boxer briefs, then nothing at all, then boxers, then tighty whities. I'll save the reasons for all that and just get to the tighty whities.

I wouldn't break up with a guy or give him too much grief if he wore them, but they give me the willies and that's a fact. Analytically, the childish factor shouldn't be a big deal, because young women wear baby t-shirts and girlie barettes and all sorts of kid throwbacks, and it's considered cute and sexy.

Nevertheless, the tighty whitey conjures up images of little tiny mama's boys, which is not a turn-on. It makes a woman all too conscious of the fact that you were once that young and underdeveloped. And not in the cute way when we see our boyfriend's third grade class photo -- in the creepy way. The way that most women feel really grossed out when little boys do anything remotely sexual. I don't know why, but that's the way it is.

Also, the way they fit: too tight in the legs, revealing too much...uh...upper leg hair, saggy in the butt, and usually too thin/see through/defining. I'm all for a little mystery when it comes to undergarments for either gender. Plus the inevitable stains, holes, and ugly-ass 70's waistband.

I can understand the support issue, but boxer briefs take care of that and are way sexy to boot.

Like I said, it wouldn't be a deciding factor in a relationship, and I'm sure I'd get used to it if I ever dated a guy who wore them. However, it would be one of those "sigh, I guess I have to deal with this" issues. And if I were a guy, I probably wouldn't want my partner to be having that kind of issue surrounding the very last obstacle before sex.

Hence, I like boxers the best, and the bottom of list would be the, uh, banana hammock.

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Originally posted by Jessa33:
Um, Mr Tighty Whitey, sir. No offense but...in your own words..."Thanks but no thanks." I think we're pretty secure on your position. No need for a continuation.

And for inquiring minds who might think I'm biased, I actually prefer briefs on guys. All that leg. Besides, I had a boyfriend who wore smiley faced boxers. One night he left a pair under my pillow before he left (we were not sleeping together). My mom came into my room after the cries of "Ew! OH MY GOD! That is so gross!!!" And being who she is, she started laughing hysterically.

I was traumatized. No boxers. Not ever. Briefs. Preferably in black.

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Hey, Jessa,
Thanks for your reply. I'm not easily offended. By the way, I love it when a woman calls me "sir."

Sounds like the guy was trying to communicate with you. Why were you so traumatized? Was it the smiley faces?

So you're a briefs lady! Why black? don't they sort of remind you of a can-can dancer at the Moulin Rouge--or Batman & Robin? Doesn't a guy in white briefs seem more down-to-earth and trustworthy than one in black? Classic white briefs say "guy," in the best sense of the word: someone you can rely on. And if they're white, you actually know if they're clean.

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Originally posted by leigha:
He wasn't saying that you're a troll for wearing the boxers...you're a troll for the weird postings that are obviously there to only cause a stir.

And on the subject of why women (for the most part) prefer that men wear underwear other than tighty-whiteys: frankly, to me, it does seem childish. If you have on a pair of white briefs, you might as well slap Superman all over the suckers and put on some footy pajamas, because only little boys wear them. I can understand a guy wearing them when he works out or plays sports, but honestly, they look funny. For the same reason Speedos look funny. Men just aren't supposed to wear panties.

Now, the boxer brief, which I am a huge fan of, is my idea of sexy, the number one reason being that they don't come stamped with your favorite superhero.

And taking your post at face value (which, in all honestly, is probably giving it more credit that it's due), if you like this girl, and she doesn't like your underwear, then you might want to try being flexible. If it came down to changing the type of panties I wear from cotton to silk, or losing my boyfriend, I'd be parading around in silk panties from here to eternity. Because it's just not that big of a deal. Sure, I may not be as comfortable, but my boyfriend thinks it's sexy, and I'm willing to give anything a shot for him. It's called compromise.

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Hey, Leigha,
How do we know what he was saying till he says what he was saying? In what sense are my postings "weird"? Are you sure it isn't just that they represent a world view--or at least an undies view--that clashes with yours? On what basis do you say my postings are there only to cause a stir? Is stirring things up so bad anyway? Do things have to be taken at face value to be valid? Don't mean to be ornery--I just like to test assumptions.

Thank you for your response to my questions about women's attitude towards tighty whities. I think your associations depend a lot on social context and individual experience. If you've seen nobody but little boys in tighty whities, then I suppose whities would seem childish. if you've seen them on teammates and friends, then you just think of tighty whities as "regular." Why you think of them as "panties" (women's panties, I take it) perplexes me. Did some female relative of yours wear them? I can understand your reaction a little more easily where speedos are concerned, since they, unlike tighty-whities, have no fly. By the way, I've never owned any clothing item with a superhero on it, and my mommie stopped buying my undies when I was ten. Do I understand correctly that you're not that big on boxers, and that you don't like the "wacky" ones? What ABOUT lobsters? Or wittle sailboats?

To be honest with you, I do own a couple pairs of boxer briefs. I find them tight in the legs and baggy in the butt. Stylewise, they seem sort of contrived-macho. Do you like them in white, or does that make them turn your stomach like the tighty whities that you so despise? I never wear my boxer briefs. You know--you get something and then it doesn't work for you, but after having worn it a few times, you're not going to return it, and yet you hate to just toss it out.

My girlfriend's deal isn't just that she wants me to slip into boxers for romantic occasions but that she doesn't want to ever set eyes on me when I'm wearing anything BUT boxers--especially those nasty tighty whities. She's the one who won't compromise. Her requirements are just a little too stringent for me. If we lived together, what would happen when I came back from a strenuous bike ride and stripped down to take my shower? I don't want to have to do it all behind a locked door, like I was some kind of little mouse.

As much as I'm put off by the whole thing, I'm finding myself fascinated by the question of why many women have what seems to be such a VISCERAL negative reaction to tighty whities. When something seems so basic and regular to me, why does it cause them to want to heave up? Women are most inscrutable at times.

Or is it just that the women who dislikle tw's are much more vocal than those who don't? (The women I've talked with would lead me to believe disliking tw's is the norm for your gender, but I would hardly say I've talked with a good national/international cross-section.)

I come from a long line of proud men who do not like to compromise. But I suppose if a THOUSAND women checked in at this forum and told me that tighty whities are gross, nasty and disgusting, that they belong only on widdle boys and should be illegal for any adult male to wear and, in fact, permitted only after second grade (through third grade with a note from Mommie), and these women said they gag and get the hives at the sight of them, then I suppose I could be convinced to burn my beloved whities--or at least sell them at auction--scope out the men's undies dept. at one of the local dept. stores and pick up something REALLY hot for a REAL MAN, then go crawling back to my girlfriend and knock her socks off. I'm thinking black, I'm thinking incorporating rubber. Or how 'bout mesh. You think I'm kidding. I'm not. Another idea: Groucho boxers--Marx, that is.

But ya know, ultimately I bet I'll hear from more women in favor of the whities, and as long as I do, I'm gonna be a proud tighty-whitey wearer. Some women go wild over a guy so confident he can get way with sporting something totally dorky--especially if it's under his pants. If only my girlfriend were one of them.
Thanks again for your reply.

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Originally posted by TightyWhityMan:
Hey, Leigha,
How do we know what he was saying till he says what he was saying?

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I know this because in a forum, the meaning of the word "troll" is a person who posts inflamatory entries simply to get a rise out of people.

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In what sense are my postings "weird"? Are you sure it isn't just that they represent a world view--or at least an undies view--that clashes with yours? On what basis do you say my postings are there only to cause a stir? Is stirring things up so bad anyway? Do things have to be taken at face value to be valid? Don't mean to be ornery--I just like to test assumptions.

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Well, even if you don't mean to be ornery, you are. And no, things don't have to be taken at face value to be valid. You asked a question as to why women in general don't like them, and I gave you a woman's perspective. Whether you liked it or not isn't my problem.

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Why you think of them as "panties" (women's panties, I take it) perplexes me. Did some female relative of yours wear them? Do I understand correctly that you're not that big on boxers, and that you don't like the "wacky" ones? What ABOUT lobsters? Or wittle sailboats?

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I think of them as panties because they look like women's panties. To me. Personally. That is how I feel. I don't like them. No female relatives wore them. And as for boxers, I really don't care about them. If my boyfriend wants to wear boxers, more power to him. He does wear tighty whiteys on occasion, but it's normall when he's working out or doing something physical. He understands that I don't like the look on him (I don't like the way they look on any man), and so he wears boxer briefs as an every day thing. And if he were to wear boxers with dancing lobsters on it, I might giggle at him, but what else would you expect? That's what those things are for. As for white boxers - it doesn't matter. What ever color or pattern a guy wears. As long as they aren't the "tighty whitey" style, I'm a happy girl.

Ex-Boy doesn't even wear underwear. This sometimes pissed me off because I like to prance around in my underwear with a partner every now and then. I also feel sort of ripped off when I'm down to my (very skimpy) undies and he's still got his damned pants on. I have some deluded sense of fairness when it comes to removing clothing

GoodFriendBoyILustAfterButCannotHave bases his underwear selection on the day's activities.

It's just UNDERWEAR. Yet you've written enough on it to qualify for a term paper.

I've found when I write about anything that much, I'm too emotionally involved in the subject. I have to take a break and try looking at things from a different angle.

Finally, you can't argue someone from dislike to like. You and your new girlfriend are discovering this. You have three options:

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Originally posted by ErikZ:
TightyWhityMan, dude, you're scaring me.

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Take a deep breath, TWM. And try shorter paragraphs, they're easier to read, and more likely to capture people's attention.

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Originally posted by GAChick:
I don't like tighty-whities because they remind me of my dad. Ew ew ew ew ew.

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Originally posted by cloonez:
It's. Just. Underwear.

Sorry. But I'm in love with that woman.

Take a deep breath, TWM. And try shorter paragraphs, they're easier to read, and more likely to capture people's attention.

Just had to get the whole thing off my chest.

Anyways, I live like a dirty gypsy, and don't wear underwear. I'm also gay, so my opinion probably doesn't count for much in the "What Makes a Man Attractive" category, but I preferred men who could go commando, or wear boxer briefs (in black or grey).

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Originally posted by ErikZ:
TightyWhityMan, dude, you're scaring me.

It's just UNDERWEAR. Yet you've written enough on it to qualify for a term paper.

Finally, you can't argue someone from dislike to like. You and your new girlfriend are discovering this. You have three options:

1. Stay the same. Realize that this bothers your GF.
2. Change to boxers. Realize that this bothers you but pleases your GF.
3. Compromise. On days you're going to take off your clothes in front of her, wear boxers. Other methods of compromising are available.

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But, I think I can imagine how boxers would be uncomfortable to a man used to wearing the whities. I'd say they'd be more attractive if they weren't white, but men have a hard time pulling off purple tighties.

So, I just try to avert my eyes until he either takes them off, or puts on some jeans.

I'm really hanging in there with the It's. Only. Underwear. contingent. Okay, if a girl is dumping you over your underwear, she needs a life. It really shouldn't be a deal breaker.

I can't imagine why you would feel a need to change what you like. If a guy told me he only liked lace bras, I'd tell him to go get bent. They're itchy and uncomfortable and I'm not wearing them.

How many hours does anyone spend looking at someone else's underwear? Maybe I'm just weird, but I get into my PJs at night in the bathroom and in the morning, I'm out of my clothes for maybe 1 minute before I have a pair of jeans on.

Even if you're having sex...(which obviously I'm not, since I live alone and am not dating)...I don't understand why you can't just keep your pants on until when you want stuff off and then take off everything. There. She never has to see your underwear.

Sorry, but this just seems like a stupid issue to have relationship problems over.

1. commando
2. silk boxers
3. cotton boxers

As for the "skid marks" comments, for chrissakes, do people not know how to wipe their own ass? Jeesh! There are products to help if you have an excess of hair, and if you don't wanna go that route, get a bidet!

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Originally posted by Jessa33:
And maybe if a girl has problems with white briefs she needs to get over it, just like I'd tell a guy who liked lace bras to get over it. If you care about the person, you won't care. Either that or you're extremely petty.

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Oh, no you didn't.

Look at it this way: if your boyfriend (or when you get one) was wearing something that just completely turned you off, wouldn't you ask him not to wear that anymore? Ratty old hair-band t-shirts, things like that? It's like that with those damn whitey tighties for me. I don't find them in the least bit attractive. At all. They turn me off. So my boyfriend, who doesn't like them either, wears boxer briefs. It doesn't make me PETTY, thank you very much. It just means that I have a preference.

If a guy said that he didn't like the kind of bra I wore, why not try to wear something different for him? You could still wear your normal ratty-assed bra when you weren't getting naked around him, but good Lord, if you can't compromise and do something that your boyfriend requests of you that is so simple, why are you even in a relationship to begin with?

damn! i've never seen so many people get so upset over something as silly as undies!!!

I've given up on reply with quote because using a ball mouse makes the whole deleting thing a bit more difficult. So this is to you. (I know, we all got that five minutes ago).

I dunno. I just don't care what the other person wears. I figure if I like them, then I like THEM. Including what they wear. The best boyfriend I ever had wore the most ridiculous looking clothes. But, on him, they worked. I just don't see underwear as being a site of a fashion faux pas. I went out with a guy who dressed like a cowboy for the prom. Now that pissed me off... Why? because it was a formal event and his attire was inappropriate. But underwear is underwear.

I've spent my entire life changing so that other people will like me more. You don't like my hair this short? Oh, okay, I'll grow it. You don't like bright colors cause they stand out? Oh, okay, I'll go buy some grey t-shirts.

What right do I have to ask someone else to change (or vice versa)? Even something like underwear.

If you like boxers, then it makes sense to wear them when they won't be bunchy and riding up and causing all sorts of problems. I've heard that this is a concern especially with dress pants. Any yeas or nays?

Personally, I like the way boxers look, but I have no deep TW antipathy. They're functional, and it's not as if it's a diaper. If skid marks are a serious problem, there are obviously graver issues at stake than underwear choice.

While I think TWM is also just a wee bit overboard, I can understand his frustration. Well, in a female way. My ex used to think that the stretchings, contortions, and personal rearrangements necessary to put on a sports bra were hysterically funny. He never tried to throw them out, but I was very self-conscious about wearing one when he was around.

I cannot stand the feeling of boxers.
1. my parts tend to wander. when you sit down, you have to be wary of where they are visiting.
2. if things get 'emotional' down there (hard), it can be quite uncomfortable trying to up the parascope against the pants (as well as very visible)...i'd figure a visible hard on is pretty displeasing to ladys.
3. boxers are cool for lounging around...

as for the hygiend skid marks?...it's all about farts...you can triple wipe and things are cool, but once you start laying out some beefy air nuggets, things get cruddy.

and what do I prefer? bikini's...string bikinis (see walmart)...and an occasional male specific thong (has a pocket/pouch for the jewels). why? cause if a chick can feel sexy, and whereing this stuff makes ME feel sexy, I'm gonna do it. If a mate asked me to wear silk boxers over my head, I'd do it for her, so long as I was aloud to go casual anyway I liked.

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as for the hygiend skid marks?...it's all about farts...you can triple wipe and things are cool, but once you start laying out some beefy air nuggets, things get cruddy.

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thanks....(and the tighywhite freak is VERY scary)

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TWM, i'm right up there with ErikZ. make a choice, and move on. i find it fascinting (in a scary way) that you're adamant you love this woman, you rarely if ever change your opinion, and you're quite attached to your TWs - but for some reason, you're conducting a public poll on opinions, as if that will make a difference. seriously - if 50 women here said we're disgusted beyond belief by TWs, would you stop wearing them? why would our opinions be more important than the opinion of the woman you love, or your own opinion?

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Originally posted by snarfus:

You know why I wouldn't wear tighty-whiteys? For the same reason I would choose Ralph Lauren or Liz Claiborne silk sheets over white cotton sheets for a bed...they feel better to me, and are more aesthetically pleasing.[/B]

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Originally posted by Spiralina:
Yeah...what's up with skidmarks, anyway? Do guys just have poor hygiene habits back there, or is there some anatomical reason for this?

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